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Wednesday, March 14, 2007
Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro

Microsoft has used the currently ongoing MVP Summit conference to announce details about the future of Visual FoxPro. The announcement was made yesterday evening to a group of MVPs and, shortly after, an official announcement was posted on http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro, as well as on Alan Griver’s blog. The core of the announcement is that there won’t be any future versions of Visual FoxPro. But to take it step by step, here are the main points:

  • Microsoft has officially announced that there won’t be a version 10 of Visual FoxPro. (And no, there won’t be a version 11 or 12 either as someone has already speculated…)
  • Service Pack 2 for Visual FoxPro 9 will ship in summer 2007. The focus of this service pack is Windows Vista compatibility. As with most service packs, one should not expect any major new features (if any at all). The goal here is to fix show-stopper bugs.
  • Visual FoxPro 9 will be supported under the MS Mainstream Support program until January 12th 2010. Extended support will be available until January 13th 2015. So while there won’t be new releases of Visual FoxPro during that time, Microsoft will still support the product.
  • The “Sedna” project will be wrapped up sometime this summer as well. The Sedna components (which are xBase components build on top of Visual FoxPro and will not change the core product) will be released to the community as open source. Sedna components will be completely free of charge. The expected delivery vehicle is www.CodePlex.com. This will allow the community to update and maintain these components, similar to community efforts around the VFPx and VFPy projects.

The exact announcement can be found at: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vfoxpro/bb308952.aspx

Today has already seen quite a bit of discussion within the community. Of course, this is not a surprise to most VFP developers, but the general tone still seems to be one of sadness, since so many of us have spent a tremendous amount of time with Visual FoxPro. However, it is important to note that this does not mean that Visual FoxPro is being dropped on the spot. Microsoft continues to sell Visual FoxPro 9, and Microsoft will continue to support Visual FoxPro as described above.

Also, the release mechanism for the Sedna components is interesting and provides a number of opportunities for the community to enhance and maintain these components for a long time to come. If you are interested in what some of these components do, check out our most recent CoDe Focus issue for Visual FoxPro Sedna. You can still sign up for a printed copy free of charge here (as well as other special issues) as long as supplies last. Also, you can read the content online (also free, of course) at www.code-magazine.com/focus/vfp.

Many of the Sedna components focus on making Visual FoxPro work better with .NET. If you are interested in adopting .NET technologies (and you probably are if you read this blog), check out our new tools section (http://www.vfpconversion.com/Tools.aspx). For instance, we recently uploaded a video about the new report converter tool. Check it out at: http://www.vfpconversion.com/Vfp2NetReports.aspx

Also, check out the articles section, which should give you plenty to read up on (http://www.vfpconversion.com/Articles.aspx). And if there is a topic you are interested in that you can’t find an article or blog post about, send us an email (info@vfpconversion.com) and we will try our best to help you out.



Posted @ 3:40 PM by Egger, Markus (markus@code-magazine.com) -
Comments (14)




Comments:

RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:57 AM

Shame on Microsoft!


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:10 AM by JM

I am sad :( but I have to migrate form this moment, and the new tool must be NO MICROSOFT. a Very very sad notice.


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Friday, March 16, 2007 9:44 AM

looking for xbase-linux software now


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Friday, March 16, 2007 11:02 AM

looking for dabo-linux software now


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Friday, March 16, 2007 11:11 AM

looking for dabo-linux software now


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:58 AM by Captain - captaincyril@hotmail.com

It's very sad to see such a great product come to a halt. Only if .Net had the features of VFP, one would migrate there. But to work in .Net and scratch your left ear with your right hand is not something I would choose. Shame on Microsoft! They intended to kill FoxPro earlier but failed. I hope that they sell it to another firm to continue developing on it. It's not fair that they bought it and not sell it again. Very sad feeling from across the globe.


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:03 PM

I have worked for years with FoxPro without serenity, because every time someone always said that it would be the last version. But this stressful situation is not ended, because today the last day is arrived. I'm looking around for a new tools, that surely it will be not MICROSOFT.


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:18 PM by Andreas Kodyat - andreas.kodyat@gmail.com

I've been developing systems using VFP since its first incarnation. In fact, my history with FoxPro was far back from the time of Clipper reigning business application under DOS console. A lot of people were sceptical on the future of the language when Microsoft acquired FoxPro. I personally think it's time to move to .NET world. What's sad about the announcement is that there won't be VFP .NET in my future development. Progress is good, but do not forget the past. FoxPro has been around since a long time ago, and I believe a lot of FoxPro programmers will have to decide which language will they use for their future projects. Luckily, .NET make all the fuss about language selection irrelevant! Welcome .NET! Farewell FoxPro, you will live forever in my harddrive! :)


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:11 PM by Luigi

I don´t like the unloyal dependency from MS, I am going to introduce in Open Software. Good bye MS, Welcom Linux.


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:23 AM by Steve - steve@stamm.com

I have been told recently that assuming the same level of skill of two programmers and that the application in question has a large data component, that a VFP programmer can produce a given application in a tiny fraction of the time it takes a VB.Net programmer to produce the same application. Further, it was stated that the number of defects in the VB app would be much higher. Is this true? Is it somehow a function of the language?


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:55 AM by Markus Egger - megger@eps-software.com

Steve, I already replied to you in email, but for the benefit of the community, I am re-posting this here: ------------------------- Productivity is a much discussed issue in the community. .NET and VFP differ. So people moving to .NET from VFP often feel they are more productive in VFP, which is no surprise, considering such statements are often made after having used VFP for 10+ years and having used .NET for 2 weeks. It also depends on what kinds of applications one builds. If you build an app to manage your kid’s video game collection, then perhaps VFP could be more productive. Personally, I have done FoxPro development since something like 1990, and I have done .NET development for 5+ years. I am significantly more productive in .NET. I do mostly C#, but this goes for VB.NET as well. So long story short: I couldn’t agree less with the statement you’ve been told. Especially for the types of applications that are being built today. The question about number of defects on the other hand is not a matter of opinion. .NET (which once again includes VB.NET) provides many features geared specifically towards quality. (Strongly typed compiling, strongly typed unit testing, automated static analysis,…). There is no question whatsoever that the quality of .NET applications is vastly superior to the quality of VFP application. Bugs such as “variable x not found” simply cannot occur in .NET. Markus


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:21 AM by GEORGE COPPER

DO NOT TRUST MICROSOFT. BECAUSE NOW IS THE 'BIG BOSS' DECIDES ALONE WITHOUT US. THING ABOUT .NET, BUT HOW YOU ARE SURE THAT AFTER A FEW YEARS, MICROSOFT DECIDES TO KILL ANOTHER LANGUAGE


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:42 PM by foxrock!

1988-2005 = 0


RE: Microsoft Announcement: VFP 9 is the Last Version of Visual FoxPro
Saturday, May 26, 2007 5:06 PM by joe

Shame on Micro$oft! They bought FP when they were unable to produce something like it. But now after dividing it's technologies into their languages, they want to force us to pay much more to buy lots of other things just to do the works that vfp alone was capable of.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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